Tuesday, December 16, 2008
Synaptic package manager dependency problems
Monday, December 15, 2008
Desktop effects
DarkKnight: hey can anyone tell me how to get the desktops in cube shaped....and other such features
psycardis: !compiz | DarkKnight
ubottu: DarkKnight: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
{
To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties -
}
Jack_Sparrow: DarkKnight Install ccsm sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
Next go to system----->preferences----->advanced desktop effects.... On the first page put check next to rotate cube and desktop cube.. dbl click general options... up closer to the top... click on desktop size and set the values to 4, 1 and 1 top to bottom... ctrl+alt+(Left Mouse Button) then move mouse
{
My Additional Explanation
You'll see 3 values....
Horizontal virtual size : set this value to 4
Vertical virtual size : set this value to 1
Number of desktops: : set this value to 1
)
koshar1: DarkKnight under window management in advanced desktop effects select Scale
What you need to try out after installing??
keep holding Ctrl+Alt and now roght-click the mouse on the desktop screen and move the mouse.... remember that you have to continuously hold three things.......
1) Ctrl button
2) Alt button
3) right click of the mouse
now move the mouse without releasing these 3 things..... you get similar to this picture
Wonder if you can see all four desktops at once.....
Yes you can.....
Simultaneously press two keys.....Window key + e
you get your desktop look like this....
psycardis: !compiz | DarkKnight
ubottu: DarkKnight: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
{
To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties -
}
Jack_Sparrow: DarkKnight Install ccsm sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
Next go to system----->preferences----->advanced desktop effects.... On the first page put check next to rotate cube and desktop cube.. dbl click general options... up closer to the top... click on desktop size and set the values to 4, 1 and 1 top to bottom... ctrl+alt+(Left Mouse Button) then move mouse
{
My Additional Explanation
You'll see 3 values....
Horizontal virtual size : set this value to 4
Vertical virtual size : set this value to 1
Number of desktops: : set this value to 1
)
koshar1: DarkKnight under window management in advanced desktop effects select Scale
What you need to try out after installing??
keep holding Ctrl+Alt and now roght-click the mouse on the desktop screen and move the mouse.... remember that you have to continuously hold three things.......
1) Ctrl button
2) Alt button
3) right click of the mouse
now move the mouse without releasing these 3 things..... you get similar to this picture
Wonder if you can see all four desktops at once.....
Yes you can.....
Simultaneously press two keys.....Window key + e
you get your desktop look like this....
Updating all systems with a single download of all packages using Aptoncd
DarkKnight: ikonia; hey is there a way that we can download all the required packages like anjuta, umbrello etc...along with gcc, g++, gcj, mysql....etc.... and use these packages on all systems....
ikonia: DarkKnight just open synaptic and click install on them
! aptoncd > DarkKnight
ubottu: DarkKnight, please see my private message
ubottu: ikonia wants you to know: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers
What next if you want to install packages from the cd you just created with Aptoncd?
Soon after you insert the cd.. you have to go to System---->Administration---->Aptoncd
then you have to select Restore tab and select the option Restore Aptoncd
ikonia: DarkKnight just open synaptic and click install on them
ubottu: DarkKnight, please see my private message
ubottu: ikonia wants you to know: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers
What next if you want to install packages from the cd you just created with Aptoncd?
Soon after you insert the cd.. you have to go to System---->Administration---->Aptoncd
then you have to select Restore tab and select the option Restore Aptoncd
Sunday, December 14, 2008
Ubuntu client-sever installations and updations
http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu8.04-lts
http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Network-Install-HOWTO.html#s8
http://apt-mirror.sourceforge.net/
http://odzangba.wordpress.com/2007/12/24/use-apt-mirror-to-create-your-own-ubuntu-mirror/?referer=sphere_related_content/
Will make more updations....
http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Network-Install-HOWTO.html#s8
http://apt-mirror.sourceforge.net/
http://odzangba.wordpress.com/2007/12/24/use-apt-mirror-to-create-your-own-ubuntu-mirror/?referer=sphere_related_content/
Will make more updations....
Friday, December 12, 2008
Ubuntu client-sever install
DarkKnight: hey can anyone tell me how to go about for a ubuntu client server install
Slart: DarkKnight: "ubuntu client server" ?? what kind of server?
DarkKnight: Slart; probably a file sever
Slart: DarkKnight: probably? you don't know?
DarkKnight: Slart; i m given the task 2 make a client server installation at my college computer lab....so i m not sure which one i have to use...you have any idea
DarkKnight: DarkKnight: then I guess you either already have been (or will be) given instructions regarding this..
DarkKnight: Slart; no...it was like i wanted linux to be in one of our labs...one main reason could be that i wanted to play around with server-client.....so it was my idea...
Slart: DarkKnight: then you had better ask yourself what kind of server/client setup you want
nibbler_: DarkKnight: setup a server, setup a client, connect, done
Slart: DarkKnight: try typing !samba here in the channel
nibbler_: DarkKnight: a server is a computer that can - for any reason - be connected by another one (the otherone being the client)
nibbler_: DarkKnight: can be hosting files (samba) offering a remotelogin (ssh (telnet)), or run games like quake etc
Slart: DarkKnight: sure.. webserver, samba server, ftp server, ssh server, quake server.. you can run all these, and more, at the same time if you want to
nibbler_: DarkKnight: database server with a database client connecting is just as client/server as it gets
DarkKnight: Slart; so now if i install web, database and samba, will it affect the performance, speed etc....
Slart: DarkKnight: just having them installed doesn't use many resources.. you can have 10 web sites up and running as long as noone is visiting them..
DarkKnight: Slart; the plan is like...only the sever will be connected to the internet...no client systems will access the internet unless approved by the admin...so how do u
Slart: !ics | DarkKnight
ubottu: DarkKnight: If you want to share the internet connection of your ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetConnectionSharing - You may also use !firestarter: http://www.fs-security.com/docs/connection-sharing.php
DarkKnight: Slart; well thank you buddy....you have helped me a lot
Slart: DarkKnight: you're welcome.. good luck with the computer lab
Simultaneously I was talking with Fazavon with whom I had a talk of printer's driver issues earlier
Fazavon: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605
DarkKnight: hey thanxx...
Fazavon: np
DarkKnight: here its said abt a samba sever
DarkKnight: can u just tell me in brief whats this samba
Fazavon: file server
Fazavon: share files over many machines
DarkKnight: ohkk
DarkKnight: is it called file sever
Fazavon: http://us3.samba.org/samba/
DarkKnight: okk
DarkKnight: thank you buddy...you have helped me a lot
Fazavon: np anytime
Other sites that could be useful for a client server install:
https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/index.html
http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu8.04-lts
Slart: DarkKnight: "ubuntu client server" ?? what kind of server?
DarkKnight: Slart; probably a file sever
Slart: DarkKnight: probably? you don't know?
DarkKnight: Slart; i m given the task 2 make a client server installation at my college computer lab....so i m not sure which one i have to use...you have any idea
DarkKnight: DarkKnight: then I guess you either already have been (or will be) given instructions regarding this..
DarkKnight: Slart; no...it was like i wanted linux to be in one of our labs...one main reason could be that i wanted to play around with server-client.....so it was my idea...
Slart: DarkKnight: then you had better ask yourself what kind of server/client setup you want
nibbler_: DarkKnight: setup a server, setup a client, connect, done
Slart: DarkKnight: try typing !samba here in the channel
nibbler_: DarkKnight: a server is a computer that can - for any reason - be connected by another one (the otherone being the client)
nibbler_: DarkKnight: can be hosting files (samba) offering a remotelogin (ssh (telnet)), or run games like quake etc
Slart: DarkKnight: sure.. webserver, samba server, ftp server, ssh server, quake server.. you can run all these, and more, at the same time if you want to
nibbler_: DarkKnight: database server with a database client connecting is just as client/server as it gets
DarkKnight: Slart; so now if i install web, database and samba, will it affect the performance, speed etc....
Slart: DarkKnight: just having them installed doesn't use many resources.. you can have 10 web sites up and running as long as noone is visiting them..
DarkKnight: Slart; the plan is like...only the sever will be connected to the internet...no client systems will access the internet unless approved by the admin...so how do u
Slart: !ics | DarkKnight
ubottu: DarkKnight: If you want to share the internet connection of your ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetConnectionSharing - You may also use !firestarter: http://www.fs-security.com/docs/connection-sharing.php
DarkKnight: Slart; well thank you buddy....you have helped me a lot
Slart: DarkKnight: you're welcome.. good luck with the computer lab
Simultaneously I was talking with Fazavon with whom I had a talk of printer's driver issues earlier
Fazavon: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605
DarkKnight: hey thanxx...
Fazavon: np
DarkKnight: here its said abt a samba sever
DarkKnight: can u just tell me in brief whats this samba
Fazavon: file server
Fazavon: share files over many machines
DarkKnight: ohkk
DarkKnight: is it called file sever
Fazavon: http://us3.samba.org/samba/
DarkKnight: okk
DarkKnight: thank you buddy...you have helped me a lot
Fazavon: np anytime
Other sites that could be useful for a client server install:
https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/index.html
http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu8.04-lts
Printer's driver problems in Ubuntu
How to solve your drivers problem for your printers?
I had a problem with installing my printer
so all i did is just visited the site openprinting.org Here I searched for my printer series and used the driver provided here I did get it working...
You can't just get the printer working with the driver cd that you recieve along with your printer, because it is based on Windows...
The exact location where I got the drivers for D2560 series is http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-D2560
The dialogues below,actually took place before I got the solution....
Fazavon: Sorry it is chatty in there.. what seems to be your issue?
DarkKnight: hey thanxx for trying 2 help me
DarkKnight: the thing is that
DarkKnight: i got a new printer
Fazavon: what kind of printer?
DarkKnight: D2568
DarkKnight: HP
DarkKnight: so wen i connected it...
DarkKnight: it detected my printer..
Fazavon: i hate to be the one to break this to you but it looks like you are not the only one having issues with this printer and there is not a fix os of yrt
Fazavon: as of yet*
DarkKnight: but i just checked the launchpad...
Fazavon: yeah but there are not drivers there yet
DarkKnight: and i saw that one person got this issue solved for the same D2568
DarkKnight: and i tried but i m ot able 2 get it
Fazavon: i am looking at 15 post of people having the same issue with no fix for it
DarkKnight: okk
DarkKnight: but there r also some outputs which i want 2 bring 2 ur notice..i'll just give it to
u
DarkKnight: just check this
DarkKnight: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1000889
DarkKnight: its my post
Fazavon: you can return the Hp and get a brothers 440cn they work great in Linux they are cheap and even cheaper to refill the ink
Fazavon: yeah that was one of the 15 posts i jsut found
DarkKnight: ha!! no i have learnt one thing in life....you need to tackle every problem that you come accross and find a solution for it.... I learnt it in one of the oaths taken by A.P.J. Abdul Kalam, the former president of India, in an oath to all the Indian students....
Fazavon: http://www.amazon.com/Brother-MFC-440CN-Photo-Printer-Networking/dp/B000J2IPY2
Fazavon: and if you dig around you can find the ink for between 20 -40 dollars for two refills of each colour
DarkKnight: its okk...i m in india...and here prices r different
Fazavon: yeah they might be cheaper
Fazavon: they are made "next door"
DarkKnight: but i hope it works in XP atleast...
Fazavon: i have never seen a printer that does not work in XP
DarkKnight: okk....
DarkKnight: thanxx
DarkKnight: 4 trying to help me
DarkKnight: it was helpful
Fazavon: anytime
DarkKnight: anyways....lets get introduced
DarkKnight: i m roshan
DarkKnight: from india
DarkKnight: doing my Btech 3rd year in computer science
Fazavon: i am beitler from the US
DarkKnight: u??
DarkKnight: okk
Fazavon: i have a masters in information systems
Fazavon: an mcse and a CISSP
DarkKnight: ohh thats gr8
Fazavon: yeah it pays the bills :)
DarkKnight: i know mcse...but wats CISSP...
Fazavon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CISSP
Fazavon: you might look in to getting one
DarkKnight: oh is that so interesting....i m just checking out the page
DarkKnight: so i have been pondering over wats the difference between CSE and IT
DarkKnight: and other branches under computers
Fazavon: they are all specific to you knowledge
Fazavon: weather it be security or programming
DarkKnight: so CSE is all abt programming??
Fazavon: hm i am not familiar with that one but yeah it seems like it would be
Fazavon: I am also looking at getting the ECH
Fazavon: sorry CEH
Fazavon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certified_Ethical_Hacker
DarkKnight: vow
DarkKnight: so u working right now??
Fazavon: yeah
Fazavon: i am at work right now :)
DarkKnight: which company..wats ur job
Fazavon: um well i work for BRC (www.brc2.com) and I an the CTO
Thursday, December 11, 2008
Updating LINUX softwares or Installing softwares from the Internet
You just have to go to synaptic package manager-----> Settings------->Preferences----------->Third Party software tab.....
here just uncheck the cdrom option...
once you are done with this....just select Revert
DarkKnight: hey how can i start updates from the internet...wen i try to update..it asks me to insert cd
Jack_Sparrow: DarkKnight remove the cd option from your sources
Halitech: DarkKnight, in synaptic, uncheck the cd
retour: DarkKnight: because it's the only thing in your repos?
jpinx: DarkKnight: check your sources.list
liable: DarkKnight: comment out the cd line in sources
DarkKnight: Jack_Sparrow, Halitech, retour; so suppose if i want it to first check for cd..and if not found then to install from the internet...then what do i have to do??
Halitech: DarkKnight, I could be wrong but I don't think its an and/or option, if it is checked it is going to look there and fail if not found
simonrvn: DarkKnight: erm, you can do that - not directly however - using the netinst; it'll fetch most of the stuff to install via network
You just have to go to synaptic package manager-----> Settings------->Preferences----------->Third Party software tab.....
here just uncheck the cdrom option...
once you are done with this....just select Revert
Jack_Sparrow: DarkKnight remove the cd option from your sources
Halitech: DarkKnight, in synaptic, uncheck the cd
retour: DarkKnight: because it's the only thing in your repos?
jpinx: DarkKnight: check your sources.list
liable: DarkKnight: comment out the cd line in sources
DarkKnight: Jack_Sparrow, Halitech, retour; so suppose if i want it to first check for cd..and if not found then to install from the internet...then what do i have to do??
Halitech: DarkKnight, I could be wrong but I don't think its an and/or option, if it is checked it is going to look there and fail if not found
simonrvn: DarkKnight: erm, you can do that - not directly however - using the netinst; it'll fetch most of the stuff to install via network
Monday, December 8, 2008
List of some software building websites....
I am DarkKnight in the IRC client.....
below you'll see that when I talk to someone I mention his name so that he sees that i am addressing the message to him........ and mind you since everyone can see your public message...so there are many people who will try helping you when you put in a query either to a specific person or to everyone on the chat room
This chat was on December 7th..
DarkKnight: hey can anyone tell me any gud software good enough to build a website
dazeXx: DarkKnight: I think it has platinum rating in WineHQ
scunizi: !html | DarkKnight
ubottu: DarkKnight: html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build web pages. WYSIWYG editors: KompoZer (was Nvu), Iceape Composer, Amaya - Development environments: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem - For a howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com/
DarkKnight: dazeXz; its not there in the repos
dazeXx: DarkKnight: you should install it under Wine
dazeXx: DarkKnight: its not an opensource / free application, Wine is simply able to run it as a Windows application
dazeXx: DarkKnight: I'm running World of Warcraft and Photoshop under Wine and they seem to run flawlessly
DarkKnight: dazeXz; kk.. wen i try 2 install it under wine....it tries to install in windows directories
dazeXx: DarkKnight: that's right, those Win dirs are really mapped to a linux dir on your machine
DarkKnight: dazeXz; ohh... then in which directory am i supposed to install
dazeXx: DarkKnight: those are mapped to ~/.wine/drive_c/
dazeXx: DarkKnight: try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=254637 and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=256604
DarkKnight: dazeXx; ya i heard more of joomla and some other which i can't remember
dazeXx DarkKnight: a friend of mine just told me Quanta has a WYSIWYG
dazeXx: DarkKnight: or if you don't mind the domain / hosting, definitely go for Google Sites
bazhang: DarkKnight, kompozer
below you'll see that when I talk to someone I mention his name so that he sees that i am addressing the message to him........ and mind you since everyone can see your public message...so there are many people who will try helping you when you put in a query either to a specific person or to everyone on the chat room
This chat was on December 7th..
DarkKnight: hey can anyone tell me any gud software good enough to build a website
dazeXx: DarkKnight: I think it has platinum rating in WineHQ
scunizi: !html | DarkKnight
ubottu: DarkKnight: html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build web pages. WYSIWYG editors: KompoZer (was Nvu), Iceape Composer, Amaya - Development environments: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem - For a howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com/
DarkKnight: dazeXz; its not there in the repos
dazeXx: DarkKnight: you should install it under Wine
dazeXx: DarkKnight: its not an opensource / free application, Wine is simply able to run it as a Windows application
dazeXx: DarkKnight: I'm running World of Warcraft and Photoshop under Wine and they seem to run flawlessly
DarkKnight: dazeXz; kk.. wen i try 2 install it under wine....it tries to install in windows directories
dazeXx: DarkKnight: that's right, those Win dirs are really mapped to a linux dir on your machine
DarkKnight: dazeXz; ohh... then in which directory am i supposed to install
dazeXx: DarkKnight: those are mapped to ~/.wine/drive_c/
dazeXx: DarkKnight: try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=254637 and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=256604
DarkKnight: dazeXx; ya i heard more of joomla and some other which i can't remember
dazeXx DarkKnight: a friend of mine just told me Quanta has a WYSIWYG
dazeXx: DarkKnight: or if you don't mind the domain / hosting, definitely go for Google Sites
bazhang: DarkKnight, kompozer
Tuesday, December 2, 2008
my geek talk on IRC with a fellow geek on December 2nd at 7:00 pm IST
My nickname in the IRC client is DarkKnight....and below is Norbert from Hungary whom i met on the IRC client
norbert79: Lets discuss this not in the common part
norbert79: Name is Norbert from Hungary
DarkKnight: Hi Norbert....nice to meet you
norbert79: Same here, nice to meet you too
DarkKnight: so wat do u do...i mean..u work??
norbert79: I work for an IT company working for Security
norbert79: and you?
DarkKnight: i m a 3rd year Btech student....DarkKnight: CSE brnch
DarkKnight: *branch
norbert79: Nice...
DarkKnight: so u work in a linux based company
norbert79: And any plans for the future? Any companies you would like to work for?
norbert79: Well, I work for a company, which supports Linux pretty well
norbert79: yet I am not in development, or at a department which needs Linux as tool for the daily work
norbert79: but I am using it on my business laptop
norbert79: and home too
norbert79: I am using Linux since 2003, as an ONLY OS since 2005
norbert79: ONLY OS = i don't have any other OS on my own PC
DarkKnight: ya i m looking forward for Open Source companies.... wanted to be a hacker like Richard Stallman
DarkKnight: probably soon start my own services for linux later
norbert79: Well, Richard is more like an activist, and a philospher, I don't know how good he is as a programmer :)
norbert79: sounds great
DarkKnight: or maybe u can say....Linus Trowalds
DarkKnight: thanq
norbert79: You should also try to get the book about Operating Systems from Andrew S Tannebaum, the teacher of Linus
norbert79: And "Computer Networks"
norbert79: I have both, both are great books on undertsanding operating systems
norbert79: but you should try to go through this uide first:
DarkKnight: ya i just had both the subjects last sem....
norbert79: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/sag/sag.pdf
norbert79: thats great, you are familiar with both then
DarkKnight: but i shld say.....networks broke my head
norbert79: hehhe
norbert79: No wonder :)
DarkKnight: lots of theory
norbert79: not the easiest topic
DarkKnight: and the different semaphore algorithm in OS...pretty hard to remember
DarkKnight: ya lots of theory
norbert79: I still find it hard to understand :)
DarkKnight: u still find it hard....i didnt understand the whole.....
norbert79: but you would like to be a real hacker user, not a hardcore dev yet... Lets go step by step :)
norbert79: May I be curious?
DarkKnight: no problem....its technical...so i dont mind
norbert79: My first question: do you understand the difference between the term 'Linux' and 'Distribution'?
norbert79: I am just curious :)
DarkKnight: yes...linux is a kernel.....
norbert79: nice... And? What makes a distribution a distribution?
DarkKnight: and distribution is something like a collection of softwares and the whole OS makes aa distribution
norbert79: well done
DarkKnight: thanxx
DarkKnight: well ur 1st qustion
norbert79: you seem to understand some parts well by now
norbert79: I am all ears
norbert79: :)
norbert79: go on
DarkKnight: i just don't want to be a hacker...
norbert79: hacker is more like someone
norbert79: who is modifying an application or part of it
DarkKnight: i want to learn hacking so that maybe it can help me to be a
developer
norbert79: to make his/her work easier
DarkKnight: ya
DarkKnight: but the final goal is to be a developer
norbert79: yes, but that is why you need to understand terms like init/upstart, /dev filesytsem, /sys, /proc, login, getty, and lot more
DarkKnight: ohh.. yes....
DarkKnight: i just went thru the 1st few pages of SAG......
DarkKnight: saw just the intro of init
norbert79: thats a good stuff for beginners
DarkKnight: one of the basic commands of UNIX
DarkKnight: ya
norbert79: pretty 'thick', but has a lot of important information in it
DarkKnight: yes
DarkKnight: init 0
DarkKnight: for shutdown
DarkKnight: init 6 for restart
DarkKnight: but i dont know the othet init's
norbert79: you should also try different distributions, like Gentoo or Fedora, or go for UNIXes too, like Open/FreeBSD
norbert79: init 0 is the command on telling init on going to the runlevel 0
norbert79: init uses different runlevels
DarkKnight: ohh yes...i used Fedora for a month or so....
norbert79: where you can define what applications to start
DarkKnight: okk
norbert79: I think you can have maximally 10 runlevels... Fedora uses 7 (0-6), where Ubuntu only a few 0,1,2,5,6
norbert79: as far as I know
DarkKnight: init 1 is single user i suppose
DarkKnight: okk
norbert79: yes, normally, but there is no 'standard' as fdar as I know for it
norbert79: you could also use only one runlevel
DarkKnight: okk
DarkKnight: just out of curiosity.....do u know what type of jobs are paid highest for freshers
norbert79: not really, I am not so familiar with payments on different jobs
norbert79: depends always on the company
DarkKnight: i mean taking a general view of any company...
norbert79: as I have told you, depends the type of work, and the company... One company could pay more for developer work, than the other, where the other could lack of tools
norbert79: you should get know as lot companies as possible
norbert79: so you can easly select the best for you
DarkKnight: ohkk
DarkKnight: i have recently joined a company for a project
DarkKnight: i joined a team called DSwitch
DarkKnight :the company's name is twincling
norbert79: Well, I live some tousand of kilometers away from you, I am not really familair with all the companies... Does the company have a website?
DarkKnight: twincling.org
DarkKnight: i have been given the task of finding out how to access a database using DC++
DarkKnight: hey there??
norbert79 sorry, I am still at work, and have something to take care with
norbert79 It's 14:44 over here (2:44 pm)
DarkKnight: no probs
DarkKnight: its 7:15 pm here
norbert79: I am 5 and a half hours behind you :)
norbert79: I know ;-)
DarkKnight: ya....we had a nice time chatting technical stuff....and i m posting our geek talk in my blog....u mind...
DarkKnight: ??
norbert79: Yes, why not :)
DarkKnight: thanxx...
DarkKnight: can we meet again on a regualar basis....i have learnt a lot from u...
norbert79: Well, I am not often online at Freenode, but you can write me any time to norbert79@freemail.hu
DarkKnight: thanxx buddy....surely i'll mail u....
DarkKnight: and maybe we can meet on sundays...
norbert79: Probably... Have fun with reading!
DarkKnight: ya sure...
DarkKnight: see u then bye
norbert79: Lets discuss this not in the common part
norbert79: Name is Norbert from Hungary
DarkKnight: Hi Norbert....nice to meet you
norbert79: Same here, nice to meet you too
DarkKnight: so wat do u do...i mean..u work??
norbert79: I work for an IT company working for Security
norbert79: and you?
DarkKnight: i m a 3rd year Btech student....DarkKnight: CSE brnch
DarkKnight: *branch
norbert79: Nice...
DarkKnight: so u work in a linux based company
norbert79: And any plans for the future? Any companies you would like to work for?
norbert79: Well, I work for a company, which supports Linux pretty well
norbert79: yet I am not in development, or at a department which needs Linux as tool for the daily work
norbert79: but I am using it on my business laptop
norbert79: and home too
norbert79: I am using Linux since 2003, as an ONLY OS since 2005
norbert79: ONLY OS = i don't have any other OS on my own PC
DarkKnight: ya i m looking forward for Open Source companies.... wanted to be a hacker like Richard Stallman
DarkKnight: probably soon start my own services for linux later
norbert79: Well, Richard is more like an activist, and a philospher, I don't know how good he is as a programmer :)
norbert79: sounds great
DarkKnight: or maybe u can say....Linus Trowalds
DarkKnight: thanq
norbert79: You should also try to get the book about Operating Systems from Andrew S Tannebaum, the teacher of Linus
norbert79: And "Computer Networks"
norbert79: I have both, both are great books on undertsanding operating systems
norbert79: but you should try to go through this uide first:
DarkKnight: ya i just had both the subjects last sem....
norbert79: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/sag/sag.pdf
norbert79: thats great, you are familiar with both then
DarkKnight: but i shld say.....networks broke my head
norbert79: hehhe
norbert79: No wonder :)
DarkKnight: lots of theory
norbert79: not the easiest topic
DarkKnight: and the different semaphore algorithm in OS...pretty hard to remember
DarkKnight: ya lots of theory
norbert79: I still find it hard to understand :)
DarkKnight: u still find it hard....i didnt understand the whole.....
norbert79: but you would like to be a real hacker user, not a hardcore dev yet... Lets go step by step :)
norbert79: May I be curious?
DarkKnight: no problem....its technical...so i dont mind
norbert79: My first question: do you understand the difference between the term 'Linux' and 'Distribution'?
norbert79: I am just curious :)
DarkKnight: yes...linux is a kernel.....
norbert79: nice... And? What makes a distribution a distribution?
DarkKnight: and distribution is something like a collection of softwares and the whole OS makes aa distribution
norbert79: well done
DarkKnight: thanxx
DarkKnight: well ur 1st qustion
norbert79: you seem to understand some parts well by now
norbert79: I am all ears
norbert79: :)
norbert79: go on
DarkKnight: i just don't want to be a hacker...
norbert79: hacker is more like someone
norbert79: who is modifying an application or part of it
DarkKnight: i want to learn hacking so that maybe it can help me to be a
developer
norbert79: to make his/her work easier
DarkKnight: ya
DarkKnight: but the final goal is to be a developer
norbert79: yes, but that is why you need to understand terms like init/upstart, /dev filesytsem, /sys, /proc, login, getty, and lot more
DarkKnight: ohh.. yes....
DarkKnight: i just went thru the 1st few pages of SAG......
DarkKnight: saw just the intro of init
norbert79: thats a good stuff for beginners
DarkKnight: one of the basic commands of UNIX
DarkKnight: ya
norbert79: pretty 'thick', but has a lot of important information in it
DarkKnight: yes
DarkKnight: init 0
DarkKnight: for shutdown
DarkKnight: init 6 for restart
DarkKnight: but i dont know the othet init's
norbert79: you should also try different distributions, like Gentoo or Fedora, or go for UNIXes too, like Open/FreeBSD
norbert79: init 0 is the command on telling init on going to the runlevel 0
norbert79: init uses different runlevels
DarkKnight: ohh yes...i used Fedora for a month or so....
norbert79: where you can define what applications to start
DarkKnight: okk
norbert79: I think you can have maximally 10 runlevels... Fedora uses 7 (0-6), where Ubuntu only a few 0,1,2,5,6
norbert79: as far as I know
DarkKnight: init 1 is single user i suppose
DarkKnight: okk
norbert79: yes, normally, but there is no 'standard' as fdar as I know for it
norbert79: you could also use only one runlevel
DarkKnight: okk
DarkKnight: just out of curiosity.....do u know what type of jobs are paid highest for freshers
norbert79: not really, I am not so familiar with payments on different jobs
norbert79: depends always on the company
DarkKnight: i mean taking a general view of any company...
norbert79: as I have told you, depends the type of work, and the company... One company could pay more for developer work, than the other, where the other could lack of tools
norbert79: you should get know as lot companies as possible
norbert79: so you can easly select the best for you
DarkKnight: ohkk
DarkKnight: i have recently joined a company for a project
DarkKnight: i joined a team called DSwitch
DarkKnight :the company's name is twincling
norbert79: Well, I live some tousand of kilometers away from you, I am not really familair with all the companies... Does the company have a website?
DarkKnight: twincling.org
DarkKnight: i have been given the task of finding out how to access a database using DC++
DarkKnight: hey there??
norbert79 sorry, I am still at work, and have something to take care with
norbert79 It's 14:44 over here (2:44 pm)
DarkKnight: no probs
DarkKnight: its 7:15 pm here
norbert79: I am 5 and a half hours behind you :)
norbert79: I know ;-)
DarkKnight: ya....we had a nice time chatting technical stuff....and i m posting our geek talk in my blog....u mind...
DarkKnight: ??
norbert79: Yes, why not :)
DarkKnight: thanxx...
DarkKnight: can we meet again on a regualar basis....i have learnt a lot from u...
norbert79: Well, I am not often online at Freenode, but you can write me any time to norbert79@freemail.hu
DarkKnight: thanxx buddy....surely i'll mail u....
DarkKnight: and maybe we can meet on sundays...
norbert79: Probably... Have fun with reading!
DarkKnight: ya sure...
DarkKnight: see u then bye
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